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Barthel

Solo Waffen SS HQ Attack

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Hello all! Many of you may have seen me or may not but real quick introduction; Captain Barthel, CO of the 8th Combat Squadron Milsim unit.blah. I've searched and haven't successfully found anything really pertaining to knowledge about attacking the Waffen SS HQ or any good tips, tricks or rewards from it. 

Some small part of my brain was hoping that it would be a capture-able objective but that vanished with a quick Poof! and the HQ is gone. All the hooplah leading up to this ultimate point and the HQ just disappears.... a little disappointed but then I was like holy cow I just did this....by myself.... That being said I'll give you all some tactics I tried.

mind you this was my first full assault on waffen not caring about casualties. Took 3 days to get the kill with the decent spawn of being 2 cities over from an HQ. I lost about 632? troops. I did not record the exact number but I will be doing this again to make further SITREPs to update my strategy along the way.

If you look below,image.pngI was able to secure the resource zones and villages outlying the Military Zones and took out the hidden crack artillery division and AA creeps as well as the armored units associated with such. Since my overall goal was to win no matter the cost(DDay?) I would sent and prepare waves at the same time so my assault force would be as simple as this:

16-20 Tier 1 Assault Guns  10 Tier 2 AT Guns  6 Tier 2 Scout Planes and just a random recon vehicle or BMW, something fast. So I'm sure many of you are well. Erased with the guns and their ranges. Both here have the same, 180. So I would get the AT moving in while the Stugs sit and wait already at the start point which will be the ultimate deploy for the AT. With the AT guns 2-3 mins out send the stugs straight at the enemy sniper towers in the village. If you have siege and destroy use it. Also, if your confident in your setup timing, utilize the forest. I got lucky and could for one of the 4 assaults i had to launch. Stugs hit just about 2200 with siege active so 20 of them firing on a tower even for a short minute or less is devasting.

ok by this time u got the Tigers attention. Don't worry just the heavy tank not the ace :D remember ur AT oh they r about 30 seconds away from being full deployed. Boom one tower down, maybe 2-3 stugs also, fall back.... On,y a few meters then pop shot with stugs. Do that only once then get them behind ur AT.  In a moment 10 of those cannons will open up and combined with the remains stugs, you can wipe out the incoming tanks. Draw all of the tanks out, if you have fallen back too fast and they turn back, use the pop shots more. Depending how much time you have with the tactic point, you MAY and that is a big may lawl be able to fire on the second sniper tower and then secure your first waffen village. 

This strategy worked amazing all the way up to the HQ. Only problem I faced was the Bombers so added 6 Tier 2 AA troops off set in two groups plus the scout planes. Trust me you will have To refine this to your own way because the bombers suck.   Artillery as well but you just have to rush them. No other way around it. 

 

Both Military zones obviously had the Tiger Ace, 3 Bombers, all the normal heavy tigers and the turrets. Stug Rush one turret at a time with tactical retreat once the tanks start to move. Just wither them down, as your troops die. Make new ones and upgrade them. Get the seconds, third, fourth, etc waves ready. 

Ok so now we are at a point were you can capture your first MZ.... NOPE OH HELL NAH. There's artillery ands other MZ turrets covering that piece so hard you will think there is some crazy demon looking at you like hahahaha I own your soul.

So if your scouts can see, behind the MZ there are 3 adjacent crack artillery batteries in a grouping and I counted about 8 or so around the HQ that can have concentrated fire in the MZ in front and around them so either way your getting hit from 2-4 artillery plus a turret. Your best option is to take down another MZ. Once you do that you can work on withering down some of the artillery and AA hiding back there and capture a MZ then the other, rebuild your turrets and watch them clean up around you as you regroup for your up close and personal day with infamy at the HQs throat. Same tactic as before but I added some bombers just for the heck of it. Wrong move. Me109s took them out. LAWL. Stick the with suicidal stugs.... And then POOF HQ is gone and your free to finish wiping out the remaining SS and FEEL FREAKING AWESOME cause you just did it. By yourself. 

 

Sorry I tried to make this a somewhat decent walk through but my iPad unfortunately isn't agreeing. Halfway thru the keyboard is like nah bruh so it was hard to get some of that written. Hope I can paint a picture in your minds on how to attack them successfully.

 

cheers bros and ladies.

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20 minutes ago, Supehooman said:

Dude U R LEGEND

? Please explain sir cause public chat has been calling me a noob lately #trolls :)

 

 since I posted this I have only refined this strategy a bit and tried again at later stages in the battle which was much much easier. 

Eaither way if you can get lucky and get near an HQ, give yourself time to prep properly and you shall have nice exp. 

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7 minutes ago, Bloodmancer said:

Can you tell me what rewards you get from this? I got really close a few months back with about ten losses but I had to abonden my attack due to a league war.

Nothing but a DECENT and I mean DECENT chump of exp.  jumped numerous levels and kept me in the top for battle ranking all match. I've been going in recently with like 22-28 Katie rockets and lose like 1 per MZ but still. After my first actual full run through, it became so easier like a well oiled routine. All I got was exp that I can recall, that's why I suggested in another thread for an actual reward once you kill the HQ like and elite unit or the like. 

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8 hours ago, Bloodmancer said:

Can you tell me what rewards you get from this? I got really close a few months back with about ten losses but I had to abonden my attack due to a league war.

The rewards are really minuscule. There was once a point to these behemoth zones of waffen control but now they are merely there for the inconvenience of players and to add variety among the jungle of cities we find in the map. My numbers might be a bit off, I haven't really taken on the zone unless I was in need of city points granted by the mzs, but unless u want to do it for fun or for the potential added score to ur city score... you should probably just invest troops in destroying players since these zones don't do anything for you.

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7 hours ago, Waffles said:

The rewards are really minuscule. There was once a point to these behemoth zones of waffen control but now they are merely there for the inconvenience of players and to add variety among the jungle of cities we find in the map. My numbers might be a bit off, I haven't really taken on the zone unless I was in need of city points granted by the mzs, but unless u want to do it for fun or for the potential added score to ur city score... you should probably just invest troops in destroying players since these zones don't do anything for you.

I agree that's why I target waffen after a few days in and everyone around me is dead, captured or surrendered. 

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5 hours ago, Barthel said:

I agree that's why I target waffen after a few days in and everyone around me is dead, captured or surrendered. 

If there are surrendered cities u are better off going to go capture those... not fun but in current ranking system it will rank u way better....

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6 hours ago, Waffles said:

If there are surrendered cities u are better off going to go capture those... not fun but in current ranking system it will rank u way better....

Don't worry. We will upgrade the ranking system in future updates. :)

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On September 26, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Barthel said:

? Please explain sir cause public chat has been calling me a noob lately #trolls :)

 

 since I posted this I have only refined this strategy a bit and tried again at later stages in the battle which was much much easier. 

Eaither way if you can get lucky and get near an HQ, give yourself time to prep properly and you shall have nice exp. 

The fact u killed the waffen by yourself is a feat 

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12 hours ago, Supehooman said:

The fact u killed the waffen by yourself is a feat 

I think a lot of other people may have beaten me to this feat BUT no one ever wrote anything down on it so I figured why the heck not. When I was contemplating doing it I trolled for awhile looking for just anything on the HQ and there really wasn't so this was my first how to guide for literally my first solo attempt. Thank you all for the support its getting so far and it is pretty noobish :)

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The HQ is worth 1100 points, the bulk of benefit is in killing the king tiger tanks worth 2200 each and there is one per stronghold. Once you kill the first one, it’s turrets can kill most of the adjoining stronghold troops dependent on the level of your generals and how far into the battle you are.  The first is the most difficult for sure.  

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